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Freddy tied the Langford double, but is in denial about it. He claims he tied a simple slip knot. Alfred is pretty sure he saw him tie a Langford double, but can't be sure because Freddy won't admit it. Paragraph 4 Claim: In the denouement, Angier drives the seen by finally realizing that his obsession had brought him nothing but self destruction Sub-Claim: Angier is beginning to see how his obsession has made a direct path to his own self destruction as he realizes what he has done to himself countless times.

Evidence: While Angier and Cutter are putting away the machine for good in the abandoned theater, Cutter explains,"I once told you about a sailor who described drowning to me" Angier replies,"And it was like going home" then Cutter reveals,"I was lying he said it was agony", Angier then puts his hand on one of the water tanks. But she knew that her husband's ignorance of her actions that night were for the best.

Harshly swallowing her guilt and fear, Julia smiled and leaned into his embrace, he in turn held her tighter. Julia said as passionately as she could muster, "Thank you Robert, I love you as well, very much. Gently she disentangled herself from her husbands arms. Julia said hurriedly "All right now dearest you need to go take you're place, after all a plant is no good if you aren't there when I call on you.

Laughing Angier turned around in the door way and kissed her softly on the lips. He said ruefully, "Okay I'm going, break a leg out there tonight, I love you. He gave her a slight nod and quickly began tying.

Julia was soon hoisted into the air and could hardly contain her excitement. I can do this I'll tell Robert when the show is over, I know he'll be upset but after tonight he won't be able to deny that I am just as good as him. Olivia Wenscombe. Alfred Borden. The Prestige. John Cutter. Robert Angier. The Professor. The Pledge. The only question worth asking is,"is it possible that Angier encountered the same twin every time he asked which knot he tied". I would say the story goes where the writer points.

It's possible that one of the twins deliberately tied the Langford double knot, knowing Julia won't be able to break free from it in time, in order to sabotage Angier's act and eliminate the business competition - so that the only great magicians remaining in town would be the Borden brothers.

This ruthlessness in business, this willingness to sacrifice both human and animal life for the sake of fame and profit, is paralleled both in the story of Edison's men destroying the fruits of Tesla's hard work, and thus eliminating the competition, and in Angier's own story of destroying himself by drowning, over and over in agony, for the sake of putting on a sensational show. If these men were willing to sacrifice the lives of beautiful birds, their fingers, the happiness of their romantic partners, their own happiness, and even their own lives to sabotage each other's acts and prove the more successful in this business of creating illusions, why wouldn't at least one of the Bordens have it in him to sacrifice the life of an innocent and beautiful woman and the happiness of his business rival in order to nip his competition's success in the bud and come out on top.

Maybe this Borden was a plant from the start, wishing to work with Angier in order to ruin him, just as Olivia was a plant sent to work with Borden in order to ruin him. Maybe he tied the wrong intentionally, after having tested it on his own and determined that it is not possible for anyone to wiggle out of it in time, and maybe he convinced Julia beforehand to be daring and not to protest when he ties it.

We can't discount this possibility. This whole movie is about the ruthlessness of business, about how vicious people can become towards one another and how cruel even towards their own selves when they value business success, fame and profit more than life itself.

I think the Borden twin that answered the question the first time genuinely didn't know. I'm sure he found out later or knew already That was the price of living the act.

I think the diary entry was written by both the twins at different times because when Angier gets jealous looking at Borden's perfect family life, he says that he found out later in the diary that Borden loved it and hated it the next moment.

Since the twins were living a half of both lives, it makes sense that both of them wrote the diary whenever they were Borden. The scene in which the wrong knot is tied, leading to Julia's death, comes after Borden's claim that he has a new trick in mind which involved the twin brother.

Maybe that's why the other twin Olivia's Borden is the one who tied that knot and he is also the one who is asked that question each time by Angier. We can reason that as following:. The diary Right after the twin is shot in his hand, he says that he told the truth.

Perhaps one half is the other twin and the other half is Borden. I say so because Bordon is certain that he knows a lot about knots and it was indeed the langford double which could have led to the death. I think that's a trick director uses to give you a false clue.

Because when I watched I guessed that Borden could have an identity disorder. Just my guess - Borden was always insecure about his secret brother. Saying "I don't know" was perhaps a simple way of avoiding further questioning which "might" have led to Robert know his big secret. It is possible both Borden and his brother realized the mess they created by not discussing the previous night's discussion of Borden's twin brother with Cutter, Robert and Julia.

Julia hinted to put the Langford double which Borden didn't understand because his twin brother didn't mention about it. Now that the mishap occurred, Borden and his twin brother decided to say "I don't know" as a simple way to hide their twin identity. Freddie operates as the "ingenieur" of the pair. He's aggressive and pugnacious. He's the one who wants to tie the Langford Double; he's the one who gets argumentative with Angier, saying "Oh you think you know knots better than me?

Do ya? Alfred is the one with enough empathy to go to the funeral. Angier asks him which knot he tied. Alfred says he doesn't know. He really doesn't! He's not the one who tied it. This tells us so much about the two brothers. Remember Alfred says "I've asked myself that question a thousand times. But he means it very literally.

Borden has asked himself that a thousand times; or rather, Alfred has asked Freddie a thousand times. And the only way Alfred could "not know", is if Freddie insists he tied the simple slip knot, and Alfred doesn't believe him. But he doesn't.



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